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MEMO TO ALL THE CHRISTIANS OUT THERE!

"Where did this man get this wisdom and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all his sisters with us?" (Matthew 13.54-56).

Jesus was part of an extended family. The Bible says he had brothers and sisters. Some churches try to spin that these were only cousins, or Joseph's from a previous marriage, but Mary, Jesus' mother, was probably not an only child. At the very least, Jesus had cousins, Aunts, and Uncles.

For the purpose of this discussion, we do not need to go into the question of whether Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married and had a family.

But the fact is that Jesus had kinfolk; blood relations on his mother's side.

Those kinfolk had children. Those children had children. Those children had children. And so forth.

Modern genetics testing of Y-chromosomes has demonstrated that at least 50% of all Palestinian males have a direct genetic trail back to the biblical Israelites.

So here is the deal. Some of the people walking around Palestine, Gaza, and the West Bank are blood relatives of Jesus. Distant blood relatives, but still blood relatives. Given 200 years, it is possible that the vast majority of present day Palestinians are remote relatives of Jesus.

Israel is killing them.

And YOU are paying for it, which means you share the guilt. YOU are paying for the weapons used to kill the modern day family of Jesus.

Think you are going to get into heaven after an insult like that?
www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts-jews.html( I did not ask that last question just want to make that clear)

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.. perhaps you should change the story ... the poor seals need protecting . the rain forests .. global warmng will flood 2 billion.. the last few frogs in the rain forest... come on.. where is your compassion ...eugenics is good .. get your vaccines now. get your tickets for the new world order the funnest ride at Disney
Jim it sounds like you are as sick of these bastards as I am... I never thought in my entire life that i would ever see this country so bad off sad situation...

Jim Neubacher said:
.. perhaps you should change the story ... the poor seals need protecting . the rain forests .. global warmng will flood 2 billion.. the last few frogs in the rain forest... come on.. where is your compassion ...eugenics is good .. get your vaccines now. get your tickets for the new world order the funnest ride at Disney
These so-called Christians who support Zionism and spew out judgmental and racist remarks by answering every question with Anti-Zionism = Anti Semitism should be asking themselves the following:

Who brought us “Judeo-Christianity,” a concept that erroneously amalgamates two distinctly different and diametrically opposed religious and cultural views?

What ethnic group has done more than any other to identify itself as the only real victims of Nazi Germany and the Second World War

What ethnic group dominates the Russian mafia?

What ethnic group owns the Federal Reserve and dominates International finance?

What ethnic group dominates the media and the newspapers in North America and Europe?

What ethnic group dominates Hollywood?

What specific ethnic/religious group more so than any other has consistently sought to ensnare and then exploit native populations under the yolk of usury?

What group more so than any other has always had its patriotism questioned?

What ethnic group has done more to subvert true scientific inquiry in the sciences than any other – embedding themselves in the disciplines of psychology, sociology and anthropology – and doing so in such a way as to hijack them and completely and totally politicize them?

What ethnic group gave us “multiculturalism,” and followed that up with an indoctrination program that reinforced this divisive farce by reaching right into our job place, homes and schools via compulsory “diversity” and “tolerance,” training programs and presentations?

What group more than any other has sought to undermine Christian values and western civilization in an effort to divide and conquer?

The church has no biblical right to bless the Zionist experiment in Palestine. Zionism's capitol is that fleshly Jerusalem which Revelation describes as "the great city, which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified." (Rev. 11:8) It is anathema that the church should bid Godspeed or pray for the peace of such a city, a city Scripture portrays as embodying the perversions of Sodom and all the bondage and occultry of ancient Egypt. The church is obligated to encourage and pray for the peace of that spiritual Jerusalem, which includes all Jews who accept the rulership of the "King of Jerusalem," or "King of Peace," Jesus Christ. (Heb. 7:1-3) Yes, Christians must be kind to Jews, responsive to their rights and humanitarian needs - just as Christians are to be charitable, without discrimination, to all people. (James 2:1-4)

Exodus 22:21 Thou shall never vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

The ethical requirements of the covenant relationship:

'Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you. And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it; and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. "Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Therefore, shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the Lord your God. Leviticus 18:24-28

Leviticus 19:33-34 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex them. But the stranger that dwellith with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Daniel and Nehemiah are individuals who personified the individual and corporate repentance required before God would bring back his remnant. (Daniel 9:1-19; Nehemiah 1:4-11). Thus when God does bring the remnant back to the Land, he does so in accordance with the conditions described in Deuteronomy 30:1-5.

30:1When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come upon you and you take them to heart wherever the Lord your God disperses you among the nations, 2and when you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today, 3then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. 4Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back. 5He will bring you to the land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. Deut. 30:1-5

So repentance is always a condition of return. The assertion that the events subsequent to the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 indicate God's blessing on the Jewish people is totally without foundation in Scripture.

Indeed, since the Temple was destroyed in 70AD and the Jews exiled from the land, as Jesus taught, as a judgement for their failure to recognize Him as the Messiah (Luke 19:41-44), the repentance required in the terms of Deuteronomy 30 would, from the perspective of the New Covenant, require recognition of Jesus as Messiah as a condition of return. Never therefore can the promise of the land be claimed by those who fail to exercise true faith and faithfulness in the Redeemer provided by the Lord in the Covenant. Never is the Land promised to Israel apart from faith and obedience.

To affirm that the Land is Israel's apart from the practice of justice and mercy is to contradict the most basic prophetic lesson of redemptive history in Scripture.

My question to Christian Zionists is therefore this. If you appeal to Genesis to claim the promise of the Land, what about Exodus and the commandments not to steal, kill and covet? If you believe in the predictive element of prophecy, what about the prophetic demand for justice? Isn't the present Israeli governments policy of forcibly Judaizing occupied East Jerusalem a 20th century parallel to Ahab stealing Naboth's vineyard? Where are the Elijah's among the Christian Zionist's who, out of love for the Jewish people, are prepared to speak a prophetic warning to the Ahab's in the government of Israel today? I believe we have every right to insist, that the stronger the claim to the Land is made allegedly on the basis of scripture, the more Christian Zionists must expect and indeed invite the whole world to judge what the Jews have done in the Land by the moral standards of those same Scriptures.

What does God say about the Land itself? Teaching about the Land is conspicuous by its absence in the teaching of Jesus.
There are less than five explicit references to the Land in the Gospels and these are indirect. The strongest is found in the Beatitudes. In Matthew 5:5 Jesus quotes from Psalm 37:11. The blessing of the meek and the inheritance of the land as described in the Psalms is echoed by Christ in the Sermon on the Mount. Yet it is not the Land but the earth that they will inherit. The Greek term for earth here is the same word used in the Septuagint for land yet the context of Jesus Beatitudes requires that the perspective be stretched beyond mere possession of Palestine. Either that or all Christians who live by the Sermon on the Mount possess the land of the Bible by their meekness. Since the Land was such a fundamental part of Judaism at the time of Christ, his silence can only have been deliberate.

Jesus of Nazareth, who proclaimed the acceptable year of the Lord only to die accursed on a cross and so pollute the land, and by that act and its consequences to shatter the geographic dimension of the religion of his fathers. Like everything else, the Land also in the New testament drives us to ponder the mystery of Jesus, the Christ, who by his cross and resurrection broke not only the bonds of death for early Christians but also the bonds of the land. (W.D. Davies)

Like the prophets, Jesus predicted the destruction of Jerusalem as a judgement on the Jewish people (Luke 19:41-44). But unlike them he did not promise there would be another return to the Land. Instead he predicted the coming of the kingdom of God in terms drawn from Daniel's vision of the Son of Man coming to the Ancient of Days to receive his kingly authority (Matthew 24:30-31; Luke 21:25-28; cf. Daniel 7:13-14). It can only have been deliberate that Jesus had so little to say specifically about the Land and so much about the world (78x in the Gospels alone).

The choice before us is ultimately a choice between two theologies. One based primarily on the shadows of the Old Covenant and one based on the reality of the New Covenant. An exclusive theology that focus on the Jews in the Land and an inclusive theology that focuses on Jesus Christ the Saviour of the world. It is a choice between an exclusive Armageddon theology of racial segregation and war and an inclusive theology of justice, peace and reconciliation.

To answer the question posed at the beginning, politically, Israel will only be able to maintain its hold over the Occupied Territories with continued massive funding from America and by superior military might. She will never enjoy peace with her neighbors until she acts with justice and reciprocity toward the Palestinians.

Until then there will never be peaceful coexistence. Justice delayed is justice denied. Israel is a materialistic society, an apartheid state practicing repressive and de-humanising measures against the Palestinians in flagrant disregard of the United Nations and UN declaration of human rights. Theologically, Christian Zionists who endorse such practice would do well to heed Joshua's final words,

14"Now I am about to go the way of all the earth. You know with all your heart and soul that not one of all the good promises the Lord your God gave you has failed. Every promise has been fulfilled; not one has failed. 15But just as every good promise of the Lord your God has come true, so the Lord will bring on you all the evil he has threatened, until he has destroyed you from this good land he has given you. 16If you violate the covenant of the Lord your God, which he commanded you, and go and serve other gods and bow down to them, the Lord's anger will burn against you, and you will quickly perish from the good land he has given you." Joshua 23:14-16

Abraham's descendants would inherit not the Land but the world or cosmos. For Paul the children of Abraham are those Jews and Gentiles who through faith in Christ have been made righteous. The promise of the Land has become a promise of the world.

Now the imagery of the land is a picture of restored paradise, that finally has come to consummation. It is not however just a returning to paradise, to the Land flowing with milk and honey, that never did ever really flow with milk and honey, but a reconstructed cosmos with resurrected people. This is the Land that has been promised, a new heaven and a new earth, something that at least equals or exceeds the state of man as he was originally created and placed in the land of paradise. It is no longer merely a portion of the earth that is the consummation of God's work of redeeming the fallen world, but instead the whole of the cosmos participates. In Ephesians 3 Paul rightly understands the Old Covenant shadow as a mystery that has at last been revealed.

4In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which was not made known to men in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God's holy apostles and prophets. 6This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus. Ephesians. 3:4-6

Conclusions
The fundamental question Christian Zionists must answer is this. What difference did the coming of the kingdom of God in the person of Jesus make to the traditional Jewish hopes and expectations about the Land and People?

We cannot interpret the Old Covenant as if the coming of Jesus made little or no difference to these particular aspects of the hopes of first century Judaism. Christian Zionists seem to read the Old Testament with the spectacles that the first disciples wore before the resurrection encounters with the risen Christ.

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